DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Ember-1
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 leads Ember-1 on coding, 70.3 to 52.6 on the Vibe Coding Index, and DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs 25.0x less per output token ($0.60 vs $15.00 per million). Updated October 21, 2026; 7 benchmarks have a result for both.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Ember-1: which to pick
Pick DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 for coding: it scores 70.3 on the Vibe Coding Index against 52.6 for Ember-1.
Pick Ember-1 for work measured by Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI), where it leads.
- Shared results
- 7
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 only
- 32
- Ember-1 only
- 7
- Like-for-like categories
- 2 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 scores 70.3 against 52.6.
4 and 2 benchmarks behind the scores
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a AA Intelligence Index result, 39.5.
Directional only
Web design
Design Arena: websites
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a Design Arena: websites result, 1312.
Directional only
General
Vals Index
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a Vals Index result, 61.3%.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
No call
Both take 1.05M tokens.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 $0.0004, Ember-1 $0.011 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 70.3 from 4 benchmarks, Ember-1 52.6 from 2 benchmarks.
- Widest category
- Coding, 10.1 points apart on average over 3 shared benchmarks.
- Widest single gap
- Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI): DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 31.8% against Ember-1 20.7%, 14.8 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 $0.60 against Ember-1 $15.00 per million output tokens, 25.0x apart.
- Context window
- Both take 1.05M tokens.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Bars | Ember-1 | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Coding | 3 | 0 | ||
| Agentic work | 3 | 1 | ||
| All shared boards | 6 | 1 |
CodingLike-for-likeSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index30
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | 96.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena WebDev | 1664 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI) | 31.8% | 20.7% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) | 87.7% | 83.9% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Code migration (Vals AI) | 44.2% | 32.5% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| IOI (Vals AI) | Not measured | 46.3% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| CyberBench (Vals AI) | Not measured | 69.5% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| SciCode | 55.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| ALE-Bench | 1622.0 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena WebDev: React | 1667 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena WebDev: HTML | 1687 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 28 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 39.5 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
Agentic workLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index31
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: spreadsheets | 1230 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench research | 79.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench browser | 76.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | 50.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Finance Agent (Vals AI) | 57.0% | 51.8% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI) | 44.4% | 31.1% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Legal Research Bench (Vals AI) | 45.2% | 44.7% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Harvey's Legal Agent Benchmark (Vals AI) | 14.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI) | 61.8% | 63.4% | Ember-1 |
| BioMysteryBench (Vals AI) | Not measured | 67.0% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI) | Not measured | 5.7% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| Vals Science Index | Not measured | 31.8% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 29 boards here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench reasoning | 89.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| MysteryMechanism (Vals AI) | Not measured | 22.5% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 43.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 93.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Chess puzzles | 46.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Mystery game puzzles | 49.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 16 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index3 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME | 99.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 3 | 71.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| FrontierMath, tier 4 | 46.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 10 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| SimpleQA Verified | 42.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 17 boards here | |||
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index8 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1312 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1300 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1362 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1335 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1372 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1334 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: ASCII art | 1243 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench design | 83.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index4 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vals Index | 61.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench data analysis | 79.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI) | Not measured | 66.2% | Only Ember-1 measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 82.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 42 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Ember-1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Fireworks Ember-1 |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Fireworks |
| Weights | Open weights | No public weights listed |
| Released | October 17, 2026 | September 24, 2026 |
| Context window | 1.05M | 1.05M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.15 | $3.00 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.60 | $15.00 |
| Coding index | 70.3 | 52.6 |
| Independent measurements behind it | 4 | 2 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 better than Ember-1 for coding?
Pick DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 for coding: it scores 70.3 on the Vibe Coding Index against 52.6 for Ember-1. Pick Ember-1 for work measured by Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI), where it leads.
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Ember-1?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs $0.15 per million input tokens and $0.60 per million output tokens; Ember-1 costs $3.00 and $15.00. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Ember-1?
Neither: both take 1.05M tokens.
How many benchmarks is the DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Ember-1 comparison based on?
7 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 21, 2026. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's coding index rests on 4 independent benchmarks and Ember-1's on 2. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.