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Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Flash

Updated October 21, 2026. 7 benchmarks have a result for both. Coding is ranked on the Vibe Coding Index; every other board is shown as published.

Gemini 4 ArgonGoogle
Coding
80.5
Overall
52.6
Output $/M
$10.00
7
Qwen3.8 FlashQwen
Coding
87.4
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.47
0
vs boards won of 7 shared

Decision reading

Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for coding: it scores 87.4 on the Vibe Coding Index against 80.5 for Gemini 4 Argon, though on 1 benchmark against 2.

Pick Gemini 4 Argon when the context window is larger, 1.05M against 1M tokens, or when what matters is LiveBench coding or LiveBench research, where it leads.

Shared results
7
Gemini 4 Argon only
85
Qwen3.8 Flash only
0
Like-for-like categories
5 of 9

Shared results can support a head-to-head reading. Results only one model has describe coverage, not superiority.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Gemini 4 Argon 80.5 from 2 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 Flash 87.4 from 1 benchmark.
Widest category
Agentic work, 28.4 points apart on average over 3 shared benchmarks.
Widest single gap
LiveBench browser: Gemini 4 Argon 92.0% against Qwen3.8 Flash 48.0%, 44.0 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
Output price
Gemini 4 Argon $10.00 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 21.3x apart.
Context window
Gemini 4 Argon takes 1.05M tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.

Benchmark by benchmark

First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.

Boards won, where both have a result
CategoryGemini 4 ArgonBarsQwen3.8 FlashTies
Coding10
Agentic work30
Reasoning10
Web design10
General10
All shared boards70
CodingLike-for-likeFour of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index10
Coding benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench coding89.7%87.4%Gemini 4 Argon
LMArena WebDev1678Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI)57.6%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI)91.9%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Code migration (Vals AI)68.2%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
ProgramBench (Vals AI)2.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
IOI (Vals AI)100.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI)57.7%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
SWE-bench Multimodal (Vals AI)56.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Vibe Code Bench 1-100 (Vals AI)21.2%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
CyberBench (Vals AI)77.9%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
SciCode61.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
FrontierCode47.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
FrontierSWE55.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
ALE-Bench2100.1Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: coding1546Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: software and IT1556Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena WebDev: React1692Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena WebDev: HTML1643Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards, none shared
Intelligence benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
AA Intelligence Index52.6Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Epoch Capabilities Index166.4Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Agentic workLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index30
Agentic work benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
Design Arena: spreadsheets1151Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LiveBench research83.1%74.6%Gemini 4 Argon
LiveBench browser92.0%48.0%Gemini 4 Argon
LiveBench long agentic69.9%37.1%Gemini 4 Argon
SREBench (Vals AI)44.3%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Finance Agent (Vals AI)65.4%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI)44.6%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Legal Research Bench (Vals AI)54.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Harvey's Legal Agent Benchmark (Vals AI)27.1%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI)75.2%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
BioMysteryBench (Vals AI)76.3%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI)44.3%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Vals Science Index55.4%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Time Horizon Index (Vals AI)52.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
CUA-bench (Vals AI)4.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Robo-bench (Vals AI)0.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
APEX-Agents82.4%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Vending-Bench 2$13,718Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
Reasoning benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench reasoning95.1%87.4%Gemini 4 Argon
MysteryMechanism (Vals AI)45.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run)57.1%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run)96.4%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
ARC-AGI98.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
ARC-AGI-291.3%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Chess puzzles59.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Mystery game puzzles64.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
EBR-bench64.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: hard prompts1546Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: expert1550Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: hard prompts in English1548Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 9 boards here
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards, none shared
Math benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
OTIS Mock AIME100.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 386.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
FrontierMath, tier 478.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
ProofBench99.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: math1536Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: mathematical work1557Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards, none shared
Knowledge benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
LegalBench (Vals AI)88.3%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
MedCode (Vals AI)58.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
SimpleQA Verified76.0%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: science1548Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare1555Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: legal and government1548Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: business and finance1525Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 10 boards here
Web designLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
Web design benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
Design Arena: websites1315Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Design Arena: UI components1333Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Design Arena: game dev1377Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Design Arena: data viz1334Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Design Arena: 3D1389Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Design Arena: all code categories1328Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LiveBench design73.7%72.8%Gemini 4 Argon
Neither model has a result on the other 2 boards here
GeneralLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
General benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
Vals Index69.2%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LiveBench data analysis85.2%74.2%Gemini 4 Argon
Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI)69.8%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
SAGE (Vals AI)53.6%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
MedScribe (Vals AI)87.4%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Long context reasoning (AA-LCR)79.7%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
DTBench97.6%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMCA63.7%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Furniture assembly72.5%Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text1532Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: instruction following1534Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: creative writing1527Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: English1538Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: non-English1522Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: Chinese1611Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: Spanish1503Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: Russian1534Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: multi-turn1556Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: longer queries1547Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: writing and language1529Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
LMArena Text: entertainment and media1527Not measuredOnly Gemini 4 Argon measured
Neither model has a result on the other 25 boards here
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
Image generation benchmarks for Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 FlashLeader
Neither model has a result on 5 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Gemini 4 Argon$0.0070Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0004Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Gemini 4 Argon$0.130Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0089Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Gemini 4 Argon$0.500Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.035Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8 Flash
SpecificationGoogle Gemini 4 ArgonQwen3.8 Flash
MakerGoogleQwen
WeightsNo public weights listedOpen weights
ReleasedOctober 13, 2026August 26, 2026
Context window1.05M1M
Input $/Mtok$2.00$0.15
Output $/Mtok$10.00$0.47
Coding index80.587.4
Independent measurements behind it21
Cost per solved taskNot computableNot computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Gemini 4 Argon better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?

Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for coding: it scores 87.4 on the Vibe Coding Index against 80.5 for Gemini 4 Argon, though on 1 benchmark against 2. Pick Gemini 4 Argon when the context window is larger, 1.05M against 1M tokens, or when what matters is LiveBench coding or LiveBench research, where it leads.

Which is cheaper, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Gemini 4 Argon costs $2.00 per million input tokens and $10.00 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.

Which has the bigger context window, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Gemini 4 Argon, with 1.05M tokens against 1M.

How many benchmarks is the Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8 Flash comparison based on?

7 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 21, 2026. Gemini 4 Argon's coding index rests on 2 independent benchmarks and Qwen3.8 Flash's on 1. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.

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