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Grok 4.3 vs Qwen3.8 27B

Qwen3.8 27B leads Grok 4.3 on coding, 74.2 to 37.4 on the Vibe Coding Index, at about the same output price ($2.55 vs $2.50 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 70 benchmarks have a result for both.

Grok 4.3xAI
Coding
37.4
Overall
53.1
Output $/M
$2.50
9
Qwen3.8 27BQwen
Coding
74.2
Overall
59.6
Output $/M
$2.55
60
vs boards won of 70 shared, 1 tied

Grok 4.3 or Qwen3.8 27B: which to pick

Pick Qwen3.8 27B for coding: it scores 74.2 on the Vibe Coding Index against 37.4 for Grok 4.3.

Pick Grok 4.3 for output tokens 1.0x cheaper ($2.50 vs $2.55 per million) and a lower cost per solved task ($0.31 against $1.26).

Shared results
70
Grok 4.3 only
35
Qwen3.8 27B only
15
Like-for-like categories
7 of 9

Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Grok 4.3 37.4 from 3 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 27B 74.2 from 4 benchmarks.
Widest category
Agentic work, 25.6 points apart on average over 5 shared benchmarks.
Widest single gap
Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI): Grok 4.3 19.4% against Qwen3.8 27B 64.8%, 45.4 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
Output price
Grok 4.3 $2.50 against Qwen3.8 27B $2.55 per million output tokens, 1.0x apart.
Context window
Both take 1M tokens.

Benchmark by benchmark

First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.

Boards won, where both have a result
CategoryGrok 4.3BarsQwen3.8 27BTies
Coding3111 tie
Intelligence01
Agentic work05
Reasoning27
Math03
Knowledge36
General127
All shared boards9601 tie
CodingLike-for-likeSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index311
Coding benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
LiveBench codingNot measured86.8%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
LMArena WebDev13581593Qwen3.8 27B
AA Coding Index42.268.1Qwen3.8 27B
LiveCodeBench (Vals AI)84.5%84.0%Grok 4.3
SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI)71.4%86.0%Qwen3.8 27B
Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI)19.4%64.8%Qwen3.8 27B
Code migration (Vals AI)6.8%14.2%Qwen3.8 27B
ProgramBench (Vals AI)0.0%0.0%Tie
IOI (Vals AI)Not measured39.1%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI)42.0%58.4%Qwen3.8 27B
SkillsBench (Vals AI)40.6%38.1%Grok 4.3
CyberBench (Vals AI)Not measured67.8%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
SciCode48.3%46.6%Grok 4.3
Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run)37.9%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
WeirdML49.9%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
ALE-Bench944.2Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LMArena Text: coding14151483Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: software and IT14161478Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena WebDev: React13531602Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena WebDev: HTML13671570Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena WebDev: from an image13751577Qwen3.8 27B
Neither model has a result on the other 18 boards here
IntelligenceLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index01
Intelligence benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
AA Intelligence Index24.933.7Qwen3.8 27B
Epoch Capabilities IndexNot measured151.7Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Agentic workLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index05
Agentic work benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
AA Agentic Index15.545.8Qwen3.8 27B
Design Arena: agents building web apps1126Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: agents building full-stack apps1006Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: agents building mobile apps1058Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: agents building Android apps962Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: agents building Godot games914Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: agents building games1007Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: HTML slides959Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: PowerPoint slides988Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: spreadsheets879Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LiveBench researchNot measured59.4%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
LiveBench browserNot measured32.0%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
LiveBench long agenticNot measured27.9%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Finance Agent (Vals AI)37.7%48.5%Qwen3.8 27B
Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI)6.2%30.9%Qwen3.8 27B
Legal Research Bench (Vals AI)15.4%36.1%Qwen3.8 27B
Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI)18.4%59.7%Qwen3.8 27B
Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI)Not measured0.0%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
τ²-Bench Telecom97.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
APEX-AgentsNot measured47.5%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Vending-Bench 2$35Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LMArena Search1166Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index27
Reasoning benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
GPQA Diamond91.4%88.9%Grok 4.3
LiveBench reasoningNot measured80.0%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
MMMU Pro (Vals AI)83.1%83.9%Qwen3.8 27B
GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run)90.1%90.5%Qwen3.8 27B
Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run)37.2%33.9%Grok 4.3
GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run)88.8%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
ARC-AGINot measured87.5%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
ARC-AGI-2Not measured42.4%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Chess puzzles18.0%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LMArena Text: hard prompts13961459Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: expert13841479Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: hard prompts in English14021461Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: diagrams12411285Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: homework12411295Qwen3.8 27B
Neither model has a result on the other 8 boards here
MathLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index03
Math benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
OTIS Mock AIME93.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 342.8%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
FrontierMath, tier 414.6%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
ProofBench11.0%16.0%Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: math13871455Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: mathematical work13961458Qwen3.8 27B
Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here
KnowledgeLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index36
Knowledge benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
MMLU Pro85.8%84.3%Grok 4.3
LegalBench (Vals AI)84.5%82.4%Grok 4.3
CaseLaw (Vals AI)79.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
CorpFin (Vals AI)68.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
TaxEval (Vals AI)70.8%70.8%Qwen3.8 27B
MortgageTax (Vals AI)48.3%64.9%Qwen3.8 27B
MedCode (Vals AI)38.1%28.7%Grok 4.3
SimpleQA Verified33.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LMArena Text: science13991467Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare13841437Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: legal and government13861447Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: business and finance13811438Qwen3.8 27B
Neither model has a result on the other 6 boards here
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards, none shared
Web design benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
Design Arena: websites1196Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: UI components1190Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: game dev1173Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: data viz1179Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: 3D1124Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: all code categories1186Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: SVG1080Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Design Arena: ASCII art1125Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LiveBench designNot measured75.9%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
GeneralLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index127
General benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
LiveBench data analysisNot measured76.6%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI)51.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
SAGE (Vals AI)19.7%52.4%Qwen3.8 27B
MedScribe (Vals AI)74.4%83.8%Qwen3.8 27B
Vals Multimodal Index43.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
IFBench83.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
Long context reasoning (AA-LCR)75.0%82.0%Qwen3.8 27B
DTBench90.7%88.0%Grok 4.3
LMCA38.3%41.4%Qwen3.8 27B
Surface Evolver BenchNot measured45.0%Only Qwen3.8 27B measured
LMArena Text13971440Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: instruction following13661436Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: creative writing13801383Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision12291269Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: English14041448Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: non-English13851428Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Chinese14221501Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: German13951443Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Japanese13791387Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Korean13541384Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: French14111465Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Spanish13991449Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Russian13991415Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: Polish13981439Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: multi-turn14061440Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: longer queries13931448Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: writing and language13851405Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Text: entertainment and media13701393Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: English12351267Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: Chinese12571326Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: reading text12351281Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: humor12221235Qwen3.8 27B
LMArena Vision: recognizing things1217Not measuredOnly Grok 4.3 measured
LMArena Vision: creative writing12371237Qwen3.8 27B
Neither model has a result on the other 12 boards here
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
Image generation benchmarks for Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
BenchmarkGrok 4.3Qwen3.8 27BLeader
Neither model has a result on 5 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Grok 4.3$0.0025Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 27B$0.0017Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 27B costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Grok 4.3$0.070Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 27B$0.029Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 27B costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Grok 4.3$0.275Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 27B$0.111Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 27B costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Grok 4.3 and Qwen3.8 27B
SpecificationSpaceXAI Grok 4.3Qwen3.8 27B
MakerxAIQwen
WeightsNo public weights listedOpen weights
ReleasedApril 30, 2026August 14, 2026
Context window1M1M
Input $/Mtok$1.25$0.425
Output $/Mtok$2.50$2.55
Coding index37.474.2
Independent measurements behind it34
Cost per solved task$0.31$1.26
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Grok 4.3 better than Qwen3.8 27B for coding?

Pick Qwen3.8 27B for coding: it scores 74.2 on the Vibe Coding Index against 37.4 for Grok 4.3. Pick Grok 4.3 for output tokens 1.0x cheaper ($2.50 vs $2.55 per million) and a lower cost per solved task ($0.31 against $1.26).

Which is cheaper, Grok 4.3 or Qwen3.8 27B?

Grok 4.3 costs $1.25 per million input tokens and $2.50 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 27B costs $0.425 and $2.55. Per solved SWE-bench Verified task, Grok 4.3 costs $0.31 and Qwen3.8 27B $1.26.

Which has the bigger context window, Grok 4.3 or Qwen3.8 27B?

Neither: both take 1M tokens.

How many benchmarks is the Grok 4.3 vs Qwen3.8 27B comparison based on?

70 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. Grok 4.3's coding index rests on 3 independent benchmarks and Qwen3.8 27B's on 4. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.

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