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Grok 4.20 vs Qwen3.8 Flash

Qwen3.8 Flash costs 5.3x less per output token than Grok 4.20 ($0.47 vs $2.50 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.

Grok 4.20xAI
Coding
33.3
Overall
41.0
Output $/M
$2.50
Qwen3.8 FlashQwen
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.47
vs $2.50 vs $0.47 per 1M output tokens. Qwen3.8 Flash is 5.3x cheaper.

Grok 4.20 or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick

Only Grok 4.20 has a coding score, 33.3 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.

Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 5.3x cheaper ($0.47 vs $2.50 per million).

No benchmark has tested both yet. Grok 4.20 has results on LiveCodeBench (Vals AI), SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI) and Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Grok 4.20 33.3 from 2 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
Widest category
None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
Widest single gap
None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
Output price
Grok 4.20 $2.50 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 5.3x apart.
Context window
Grok 4.20 takes 2M tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.

Benchmark by benchmark

Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.

CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index9 boards measured
Coding benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench codingNot measured87.4%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
LiveCodeBench (Vals AI)84.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI)72.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI)4.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Code migration (Vals AI)0.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI)44.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run)37.9%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Terminal-Bench57.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
WeirdML52.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 30 boards here
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
Intelligence benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
AA Intelligence Index25.7Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Epoch Capabilities Index152.1Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index15 boards measured
Agentic work benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
Design Arena: agents building web apps1144Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: agents building full-stack apps1054Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: agents building mobile apps1090Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: agents building Android apps1045Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: agents building Godot games1089Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: HTML slides1180Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
LiveBench researchNot measured74.6%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
LiveBench browserNot measured48.0%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
LiveBench long agenticNot measured37.1%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
Finance Agent (Vals AI)28.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI)7.0%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Legal Research Bench (Vals AI)13.9%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI)11.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
τ²-Bench Telecom93.0%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Vending-Bench 2$4,663Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 26 boards here
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index8 boards measured
Reasoning benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
GPQA Diamond88.6%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
LiveBench reasoningNot measured87.4%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
MMMU Pro (Vals AI)83.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run)91.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run)34.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
ARC-AGI89.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
ARC-AGI-265.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Kagi LLM Benchmark75.0%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 14 boards here
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Math benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
AIME96.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 12 boards here
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index8 boards measured
Knowledge benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
MMLU Pro86.3%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
LegalBench (Vals AI)77.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
CaseLaw (Vals AI)54.4%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
CorpFin (Vals AI)63.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
TaxEval (Vals AI)74.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
MortgageTax (Vals AI)45.4%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
MedQA (Vals AI)94.5%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
MedCode (Vals AI)32.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 10 boards here
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards measured
Web design benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
Design Arena: websites1229Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: UI components1200Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: game dev1193Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: data viz1217Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: 3D1193Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: all code categories1221Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: SVG1165Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Design Arena: ASCII art1175Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
LiveBench designNot measured72.8%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10 boards measured
General benchmarks for Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkGrok 4.20Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench data analysisNot measured74.2%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
SAGE (Vals AI)38.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
MedScribe (Vals AI)63.4%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Vals Multimodal Index39.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
IFBench81.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Long context reasoning (AA-LCR)69.0%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
DTBench90.1%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
LMCA38.7%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
CL-bench22.2%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
CL-bench Life11.9%Not measuredOnly Grok 4.20 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 36 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Grok 4.20$0.0025Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0004Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Grok 4.20$0.070Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0089Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Grok 4.20$0.275Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.035Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash
SpecificationSpaceXAI Grok 4.20Qwen3.8 Flash
MakerxAIQwen
WeightsNo public weights listedOpen weights
ReleasedMarch 31, 2026August 26, 2026
Context window2M1M
Input $/Mtok$1.25$0.15
Output $/Mtok$2.50$0.47
Coding index33.3Not benchmarked
Independent measurements behind it21
Cost per solved task$0.72Not computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Grok 4.20 better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?

Only Grok 4.20 has a coding score, 33.3 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 5.3x cheaper ($0.47 vs $2.50 per million).

Which is cheaper, Grok 4.20 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Grok 4.20 costs $1.25 per million input tokens and $2.50 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for Grok 4.20 only.

Which has the bigger context window, Grok 4.20 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Grok 4.20, with 2M tokens against 1M.

Has any benchmark tested both Grok 4.20 and Qwen3.8 Flash?

No benchmark has tested both yet. Grok 4.20 has results on LiveCodeBench (Vals AI), SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI) and Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 22, 2026.

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