DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 vs Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B leads DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 on coding, 74.2 to 38.7 on the Vibe Coding Index, at about the same output price ($2.55 vs $2.976 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 56 benchmarks have a result for both.
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 or Qwen3.8 27B: which to pick
Pick Qwen3.8 27B for coding: it scores 74.2 on the Vibe Coding Index against 38.7 for DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423, though on 4 benchmarks against 5.
Pick DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 for a lower cost per solved task ($0.57 against $1.26) and a larger context window (1.05M against 1M tokens).
- Shared results
- 56
- DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 only
- 28
- Qwen3.8 27B only
- 29
- Like-for-like categories
- 7 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B scores 74.2 against 38.7.
5 and 4 benchmarks behind the scores
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B leads, 33.7 against 30.4.
Same board, both measured
Agentic work
AA Agentic Index
Qwen3.8 27B
Qwen3.8 27B leads, 45.8 against 26.3.
Same board, both measured
Reasoning
GPQA Diamond
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 leads, 89.4% against 88.9%.
Same board, both measured
Knowledge
MMLU Pro
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 leads, 87.3% against 84.3%.
Same board, both measured
Web design
Design Arena: websites
No call
Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 has a Design Arena: websites result, 1234.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 takes 1.05M tokens against 1M.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 27B
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 $0.0028, Qwen3.8 27B $0.0017 per turn.
List prices
Cost per solved task
One SWE-bench Verified task, solved
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 $0.57, Qwen3.8 27B $1.26.
Published attempt cost and pass rate
At a glance
- Coding index
- DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 38.7 from 5 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 27B 74.2 from 4 benchmarks.
- Widest category
- Coding, 11.0 points apart on average over 13 shared benchmarks.
- Widest single gap
- LMArena WebDev: React: DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 1441 against Qwen3.8 27B 1602, 26.6 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 $2.976 against Qwen3.8 27B $2.55 per million output tokens, 1.2x apart.
- Context window
- DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 takes 1.05M tokens, Qwen3.8 27B 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Bars | Qwen3.8 27B | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Coding | 3 | 9 | 1 tie | |
| Intelligence | 0 | 2 | ||
| Agentic work | 0 | 5 | ||
| Reasoning | 3 | 1 | ||
| Math | 0 | 2 | 1 tie | |
| Knowledge | 7 | 1 | ||
| General | 17 | 4 | ||
| All shared boards | 30 | 24 | 2 ties |
CodingLike-for-likeSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index39
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | Not measured | 86.8% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena WebDev | 1447 | 1593 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| AA Coding Index | 59.4 | 68.1 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LiveCodeBench (Vals AI) | 87.5% | 84.0% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI) | 77.4% | 86.0% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI) | 11.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) | 49.9% | 64.8% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Code migration (Vals AI) | 26.2% | 14.2% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| ProgramBench (Vals AI) | 0.0% | 0.0% | Tie |
| IOI (Vals AI) | Not measured | 39.1% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI) | 50.2% | 58.4% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| SkillsBench (Vals AI) | 51.3% | 38.1% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| CyberBench (Vals AI) | Not measured | 67.8% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| SciCode | Not measured | 46.6% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| FrontierCode | 17.6% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| WeirdML | 48.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| ALE-Bench | 1006.1 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1470 | 1483 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1469 | 1478 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena WebDev: React | 1441 | 1602 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena WebDev: HTML | 1435 | 1570 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena WebDev: from an image | Not measured | 1577 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 17 boards here | |||
IntelligenceLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index02
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 30.4 | 33.7 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 149.1 | 151.7 | Qwen3.8 27B |
Agentic workLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index05
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Agentic Index | 26.3 | 45.8 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Design Arena: agents building web apps | 1000 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: agents building full-stack apps | 948 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: agents building Godot games | 1059 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LiveBench research | Not measured | 59.4% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LiveBench browser | Not measured | 32.0% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | Not measured | 27.9% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Finance Agent (Vals AI) | 44.1% | 48.5% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI) | 25.2% | 30.9% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Legal Research Bench (Vals AI) | 23.1% | 36.1% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI) | 51.6% | 59.7% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI) | Not measured | 0.0% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| APEX-Agents | Not measured | 47.5% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Vending-Bench 2 | $3,285 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 27 boards here | |||
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index31
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 89.4% | 88.9% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LiveBench reasoning | Not measured | 80.0% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| MMMU Pro (Vals AI) | Not measured | 83.9% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 90.5% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 33.9% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 90.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| ARC-AGI | Not measured | 87.5% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| ARC-AGI-2 | Not measured | 42.4% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Chess puzzles | 19.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Mystery game puzzles | 17.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1461 | 1459 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1463 | 1479 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1466 | 1461 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Vision: diagrams | Not measured | 1285 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Vision: homework | Not measured | 1295 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 53.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 6 boards here | |||
MathLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index02
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME | 96.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 3 | 45.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| FrontierMath, tier 4 | 2.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| ProofBench | 16.0% | 16.0% | Tie |
| LMArena Text: math | 1443 | 1455 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1455 | 1458 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here | |||
KnowledgeLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index71
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro | 87.3% | 84.3% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LegalBench (Vals AI) | 80.3% | 82.4% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| CaseLaw (Vals AI) | 59.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| CorpFin (Vals AI) | 61.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| TaxEval (Vals AI) | 72.1% | 70.8% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| MortgageTax (Vals AI) | Not measured | 64.9% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| MedCode (Vals AI) | 40.5% | 28.7% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| SimpleQA Verified | 47.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1470 | 1467 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1466 | 1437 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1464 | 1447 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1443 | 1438 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| Neither model has a result on the other 6 boards here | |||
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1234 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1219 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1228 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1203 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1253 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1240 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: SVG | 1139 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| Design Arena: ASCII art | 1149 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LiveBench design | Not measured | 75.9% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
GeneralLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index174
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench data analysis | Not measured | 76.6% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI) | 62.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| SAGE (Vals AI) | Not measured | 52.4% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| MedScribe (Vals AI) | 75.1% | 83.8% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | Not measured | 82.0% | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| DTBench | 90.7% | 88.0% | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMCA | 41.2% | 41.4% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| Surface Evolver Bench | 40.0% | 45.0% | Qwen3.8 27B |
| CL-bench Life | 13.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 measured |
| LMArena Text | 1451 | 1440 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1445 | 1436 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1446 | 1383 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Vision | Not measured | 1269 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1459 | 1448 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1439 | 1428 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1481 | 1501 | Qwen3.8 27B |
| LMArena Text: German | 1458 | 1443 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1446 | 1387 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1409 | 1384 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: French | 1473 | 1465 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1457 | 1449 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1453 | 1415 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: Polish | 1461 | 1439 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1468 | 1440 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1458 | 1448 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1447 | 1405 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1431 | 1393 | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 |
| LMArena Vision: English | Not measured | 1267 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Vision: Chinese | Not measured | 1326 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Vision: reading text | Not measured | 1281 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Vision: humor | Not measured | 1235 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| LMArena Vision: creative writing | Not measured | 1237 | Only Qwen3.8 27B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 14 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 27B costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3.8 27B costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3.8 27B costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 | Qwen3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | April 24, 2026 | August 14, 2026 |
| Context window | 1.05M | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $1.358 | $0.425 |
| Output $/Mtok | $2.976 | $2.55 |
| Coding index | 38.7 | 74.2 |
| Independent measurements behind it | 5 | 4 |
| Cost per solved task | $0.57 | $1.26 |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 better than Qwen3.8 27B for coding?
Pick Qwen3.8 27B for coding: it scores 74.2 on the Vibe Coding Index against 38.7 for DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423, though on 4 benchmarks against 5. Pick DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 for a lower cost per solved task ($0.57 against $1.26) and a larger context window (1.05M against 1M tokens).
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 or Qwen3.8 27B?
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 costs $1.358 per million input tokens and $2.976 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 27B costs $0.425 and $2.55. Per solved SWE-bench Verified task, DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 costs $0.57 and Qwen3.8 27B $1.26.
Which has the bigger context window, DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 or Qwen3.8 27B?
DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423, with 1.05M tokens against 1M.
How many benchmarks is the DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423 vs Qwen3.8 27B comparison based on?
56 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. DeepSeek V4 Pro 0423's coding index rests on 5 independent benchmarks and Qwen3.8 27B's on 4. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.