DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3 30B A3B
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 leads Qwen3 30B A3B on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, 39.5 to 7.6, and Qwen3 30B A3B costs 1.2x less per output token ($0.50 vs $0.60 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 10 benchmarks have a result for both.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3 30B A3B: which to pick
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a coding score, 70.3 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3 30B A3B has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Qwen3 30B A3B for output tokens 1.2x cheaper ($0.50 vs $0.60 per million).
- Shared results
- 10
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 only
- 29
- Qwen3 30B A3B only
- 42
- Like-for-like categories
- 5 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a coding score, so no call is made.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 leads, 39.5 against 7.6.
Same board, both measured
Web design
Design Arena: websites
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 leads, 1311 against 954.
Same board, both measured
General
Vals Index
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a Vals Index result, 61.3%.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 takes 1.05M tokens against 41K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3 30B A3B
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 $0.0004, Qwen3 30B A3B $0.0004 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 70.3 from 4 benchmarks, Qwen3 30B A3B not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- General, 82.7 points apart on average over 1 shared benchmark.
- Widest single gap
- Long context reasoning (AA-LCR): DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 82.7% against Qwen3 30B A3B 0.0%, 82.7 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 $0.60 against Qwen3 30B A3B $0.50 per million output tokens, 1.2x apart.
- Context window
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 takes 1.05M tokens, Qwen3 30B A3B 41K.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Bars | Qwen3 30B A3B | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | 1 | 0 | ||
| Reasoning | 2 | 0 | ||
| Math | 1 | 0 | ||
| Web design | 5 | 0 | ||
| General | 1 | 0 | ||
| All shared boards | 10 | 0 |
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index14 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | 96.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena WebDev | 1664 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI) | 31.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) | 87.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Code migration (Vals AI) | 44.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 50.6% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| SciCode | 55.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 6.8% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| WeirdML | Not measured | 29.8% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| ALE-Bench | 1622.0 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | Not measured | 1337 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | Not measured | 1340 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena WebDev: React | 1667 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena WebDev: HTML | 1687 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 25 boards here | |||
IntelligenceLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 39.5 | 7.6 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | Not measured | 137.3 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: spreadsheets | 1245 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench research | 79.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench browser | 76.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | 50.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Finance Agent (Vals AI) | 57.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI) | 44.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Legal Research Bench (Vals AI) | 45.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Harvey's Legal Agent Benchmark (Vals AI) | 14.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI) | 61.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| τ²-Bench Telecom | Not measured | 26.0% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 31 boards here | |||
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index20
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench reasoning | 89.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 61.6% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 43.3% | 6.2% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 93.2% | 61.7% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Chess puzzles | 46.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Mystery game puzzles | 49.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | Not measured | 1314 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | Not measured | 1314 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | Not measured | 1329 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 13 boards here | |||
MathLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Math Index | Not measured | 72.3 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| AIME 2025 (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 72.3% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| OTIS Mock AIME | 99.4% | 62.8% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 3 | 71.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| FrontierMath, tier 4 | 46.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena Text: math | Not measured | 1355 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | Not measured | 1363 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 6 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run) | Not measured | 77.7% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| SimpleQA Verified | 42.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LMArena Text: science | Not measured | 1321 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | Not measured | 1318 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | Not measured | 1314 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | Not measured | 1309 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 12 boards here | |||
Web designLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index50
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1311 | 954 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1303 | 943 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1357 | 898 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1330 | 967 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1358 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1332 | 941 | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| Design Arena: ASCII art | 1242 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench design | 83.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
GeneralLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vals Index | 61.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| LiveBench data analysis | 79.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 measured |
| IFBench | Not measured | 41.5% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 82.7% | 0.0% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
| DTBench | Not measured | 60.3% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMCA | Not measured | 15.8% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Fiction.LiveBench | Not measured | 40.6% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Creative writing (Lech Mazur) | Not measured | 75.3% | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text | Not measured | 1317 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | Not measured | 1283 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | Not measured | 1271 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: English | Not measured | 1335 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | Not measured | 1295 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | Not measured | 1347 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: German | Not measured | 1307 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | Not measured | 1254 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | Not measured | 1261 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: French | Not measured | 1352 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | Not measured | 1317 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | Not measured | 1291 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: Polish | Not measured | 1299 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | Not measured | 1307 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | Not measured | 1312 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | Not measured | 1290 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | Not measured | 1258 | Only Qwen3 30B A3B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3 30B A3B costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3 30B A3B costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3 30B A3B costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 | Qwen3 30B A3B |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | October 17, 2026 | April 28, 2025 |
| Context window | 1.05M | 41K |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.15 | $0.12 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.60 | $0.50 |
| Coding index | 70.3 | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 4 | 0 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 better than Qwen3 30B A3B for coding?
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 has a coding score, 70.3 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3 30B A3B has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3 30B A3B for output tokens 1.2x cheaper ($0.50 vs $0.60 per million).
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3 30B A3B?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 costs $0.15 per million input tokens and $0.60 per million output tokens; Qwen3 30B A3B costs $0.12 and $0.50. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 or Qwen3 30B A3B?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017, with 1.05M tokens against 41K.
How many benchmarks is the DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 vs Qwen3 30B A3B comparison based on?
10 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017's coding index rests on 4 independent benchmarks and Qwen3 30B A3B's on 0. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.