DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Qwen3.8 Flash
Qwen3.8 Flash costs 1.8x less per output token than DeepSeek V4.1 Flash ($0.47 vs $0.84 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 7 benchmarks have a result for both.
vs boards won of 7 shared
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash has a coding score, 62.5 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 1.8x cheaper ($0.47 vs $0.84 per million) and work measured by LiveBench reasoning, where it leads.
Model ADeepSeek V4.1 FlashDeepSeek62.5/1005 independent benchmarksNo cost per solved taskModel BQwen3.8 FlashQwenNot benchmarked1 independent benchmarkNo cost per solved task
- Shared results
- 7
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash only
- 94
- Qwen3.8 Flash only
- 0
- Like-for-like categories
- 5 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash has a coding score, so no call is made.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash has a AA Intelligence Index result, 24.7.
Directional only
Web design
Design Arena: websites
No call
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash has a Design Arena: websites result, 1308.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash takes 1.05M tokens against 1M.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash $0.0006, Qwen3.8 Flash $0.0004 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 62.5 from 5 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- Agentic work, 17.1 points apart on average over 3 shared benchmarks.
- Widest single gap
- LiveBench browser: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 84.0% against Qwen3.8 Flash 48.0%, 36.0 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash $0.84 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 1.8x apart.
- Context window
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash takes 1.05M tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Bars | Qwen3.8 Flash | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Coding | 1 | 0 | ||
| Agentic work | 3 | 0 | ||
| Reasoning | 0 | 1 | ||
| Web design | 1 | 0 | ||
| General | 1 | 0 | ||
| All shared boards | 6 | 1 |
CodingLike-for-likeSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | 90.2% | 87.4% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
| LMArena WebDev | 1618 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI) | 19.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) | 84.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Code migration (Vals AI) | 45.6% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| ProgramBench (Vals AI) | 0.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| IOI (Vals AI) | 40.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI) | 74.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| SWE-bench Multimodal (Vals AI) | 46.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Vibe Code Bench 1-100 (Vals AI) | 16.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| SkillsBench (Vals AI) | 69.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| CyberBench (Vals AI) | 73.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| SciCode | 51.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| FrontierCode | 43.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| ALE-Bench | 1092.3 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1502 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1496 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena WebDev: React | 1628 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena WebDev: HTML | 1612 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena WebDev: from an image | 1606 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 24.7 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 155.9 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
Agentic workLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index30
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench research | 86.8% | 74.6% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
| LiveBench browser | 84.0% | 48.0% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
| LiveBench long agentic | 40.1% | 37.1% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
| SREBench (Vals AI) | 0.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Finance Agent (Vals AI) | 53.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI) | 26.6% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Legal Research Bench (Vals AI) | 41.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI) | 57.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| BioMysteryBench (Vals AI) | 67.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI) | 0.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Vals Science Index | 29.6% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| APEX-Agents | 39.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 29 boards here | |||
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index01
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench reasoning | 86.7% | 87.4% | Qwen3.8 Flash |
| MysteryMechanism (Vals AI) | 21.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 39.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 89.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| ARC-AGI | 94.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| ARC-AGI-2 | 72.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Chess puzzles | 48.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Mystery game puzzles | 43.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1483 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1501 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1488 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: diagrams | 1297 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: homework | 1307 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 9 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME | 98.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| FrontierMath, tiers 1 to 3 | 67.4% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| FrontierMath, tier 4 | 26.8% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| ProofBench | 54.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: math | 1478 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1485 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LegalBench (Vals AI) | 83.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| MedCode (Vals AI) | 41.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| SimpleQA Verified | 42.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1469 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1484 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1443 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1461 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 11 boards here | |||
Web designLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1308 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1312 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1330 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1291 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1355 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1320 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: SVG | 1245 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Design Arena: ASCII art | 1265 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LiveBench design | 79.2% | 72.8% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
GeneralLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench data analysis | 79.3% | 74.2% | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash |
| Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI) | 64.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| SAGE (Vals AI) | 47.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| MedScribe (Vals AI) | 85.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 84.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| DTBench | 89.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMCA | 47.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Surface Evolver Bench | 46.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Furniture assembly | 34.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text | 1464 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1473 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1437 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision | 1278 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1473 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1449 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1501 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1470 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1432 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1436 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1465 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1459 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1467 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: Polish | 1457 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1461 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1473 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1450 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1445 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: English | 1288 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: Chinese | 1327 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: reading text | 1282 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: humor | 1260 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| LMArena Vision: creative writing | 1275 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 14 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash$0.0006Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0004Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash$0.014Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0089Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash$0.053Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.035Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash | Qwen3.8 Flash |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | September 10, 2026 | August 26, 2026 |
| Context window | 1.05M | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.2225 | $0.15 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.84 | $0.47 |
| Coding index | 62.5 | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 5 | 1 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is DeepSeek V4.1 Flash better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?
Only DeepSeek V4.1 Flash has a coding score, 62.5 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 1.8x cheaper ($0.47 vs $0.84 per million) and work measured by LiveBench reasoning, where it leads.
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash or Qwen3.8 Flash?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash costs $0.2225 per million input tokens and $0.84 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash or Qwen3.8 Flash?
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash, with 1.05M tokens against 1M.
How many benchmarks is the DeepSeek V4.1 Flash vs Qwen3.8 Flash comparison based on?
7 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash's coding index rests on 5 independent benchmarks and Qwen3.8 Flash's on 1. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.