Nemotron 3 Ultra vs Qwen3.8 Flash
Qwen3.8 Flash costs 5.1x less per output token than Nemotron 3 Ultra ($0.47 vs $2.40 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.
- Coding
- 30.0
- Overall
- 53.1
- Output $/M
- $2.40
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.47
Nemotron 3 Ultra or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a coding score, 30.0 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 5.1x cheaper ($0.47 vs $2.40 per million) and a larger context window (1M against 262K tokens).
No benchmark has tested both yet. Nemotron 3 Ultra has results on AA Coding Index, LiveCodeBench (Vals AI) and SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a coding score, so no call is made.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a AA Intelligence Index result, 22.9.
Directional only
Agentic work
AA Agentic Index
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a AA Agentic Index result, 20.1.
Directional only
Reasoning
GPQA Diamond
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a GPQA Diamond result, 86.1%.
Directional only
Knowledge
MMLU Pro
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a MMLU Pro result, 85.8%.
Directional only
Web design
Design Arena: websites
No call
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a Design Arena: websites result, 1145.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Qwen3.8 Flash
Qwen3.8 Flash takes 1M tokens against 262K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash
Nemotron 3 Ultra $0.0018, Qwen3.8 Flash $0.0004 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Nemotron 3 Ultra 30.0 from 3 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
- Widest single gap
- None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
- Output price
- Nemotron 3 Ultra $2.40 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 5.1x apart.
- Context window
- Nemotron 3 Ultra takes 262K tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index14 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| AA Coding Index | 49.3 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LiveCodeBench (Vals AI) | 86.0% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI) | 69.0% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) | 7.6% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Code migration (Vals AI) | 4.9% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| ProgramBench (Vals AI) | 0.0% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Terminal-Bench 2.1 (Vals AI) | 50.9% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| SciCode | 40.3% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) | 36.4% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| FrontierCode | 13.6% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| WeirdML | 43.5% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1468 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1468 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 29 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 22.9 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 146.0 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Agentic Index | 20.1 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LiveBench research | Not measured | 74.6% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench browser | Not measured | 48.0% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | Not measured | 37.1% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| Finance Agent (Vals AI) | 37.7% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Legal Research Bench (Vals AI) | 15.4% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI) | 31.7% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| τ²-Bench Telecom | 83.3% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| APEX-Agents | 22.7% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| MCP Atlas | 63.1% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 32 boards here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond | 86.1% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LiveBench reasoning | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | 86.7% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 28.4% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 85.4% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Mystery game puzzles | 20.0% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1452 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1472 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1453 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 14 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index4 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| OTIS Mock AIME | 86.7% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| ProofBench | 2.0% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: math | 1457 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1461 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 10 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro | 85.8% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LegalBench (Vals AI) | 82.1% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| CorpFin (Vals AI) | 65.5% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| TaxEval (Vals AI) | 73.1% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| MedCode (Vals AI) | 38.6% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1465 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1456 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1452 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1434 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 11 boards here | |||
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index9 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1145 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1135 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1138 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1141 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1131 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1146 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: SVG | 1069 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Design Arena: ASCII art | 1100 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LiveBench design | Not measured | 72.8% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index21 boards measured
| Benchmark | Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench data analysis | Not measured | 74.2% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| IFBench | 81.4% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 79.3% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| DTBench | 90.1% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMCA | 36.9% | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text | 1445 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1418 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1399 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1455 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1427 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1497 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1472 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1384 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1472 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1455 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1417 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: Polish | 1385 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1411 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1437 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1406 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1397 | Not measured | Only Nemotron 3 Ultra measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 27 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | NVIDIA Nemotron 3 Ultra | Qwen3.8 Flash |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | NVIDIA | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | June 4, 2026 | August 26, 2026 |
| Context window | 262K | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.60 | $0.15 |
| Output $/Mtok | $2.40 | $0.47 |
| Coding index | 30.0 | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 3 | 1 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Nemotron 3 Ultra better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?
Only Nemotron 3 Ultra has a coding score, 30.0 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 5.1x cheaper ($0.47 vs $2.40 per million) and a larger context window (1M against 262K tokens).
Which is cheaper, Nemotron 3 Ultra or Qwen3.8 Flash?
Nemotron 3 Ultra costs $0.60 per million input tokens and $2.40 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Nemotron 3 Ultra or Qwen3.8 Flash?
Qwen3.8 Flash, with 1M tokens against 262K.
Has any benchmark tested both Nemotron 3 Ultra and Qwen3.8 Flash?
No benchmark has tested both yet. Nemotron 3 Ultra has results on AA Coding Index, LiveCodeBench (Vals AI) and SWE-bench Verified (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 22, 2026.