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Ember-1 vs Qwen3.8 Flash

Qwen3.8 Flash costs 31.9x less per output token than Ember-1 ($0.47 vs $15.00 per million). Updated October 21, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.

Ember-1Fireworks
Coding
52.6
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$15.00
Qwen3.8 FlashQwen
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.47
vs $15.00 vs $0.47 per 1M output tokens. Qwen3.8 Flash is 31.9x cheaper.

Ember-1 or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick

Only Ember-1 has a coding score, 52.6 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.

Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 31.9x cheaper ($0.47 vs $15.00 per million).

No benchmark has tested both yet. Ember-1 has results on Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI), Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) and Code migration (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Ember-1 52.6 from 2 benchmarks, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
Widest category
None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
Widest single gap
None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
Output price
Ember-1 $15.00 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 31.9x apart.
Context window
Ember-1 takes 1.05M tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.

Benchmark by benchmark

Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.

CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index6 boards measured
Coding benchmarks for Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkEmber-1Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench codingNot measured87.4%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI)20.7%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI)83.9%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Code migration (Vals AI)32.5%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
IOI (Vals AI)46.3%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
CyberBench (Vals AI)69.5%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 33 boards here
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10 boards measured
Agentic work benchmarks for Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkEmber-1Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench researchNot measured74.6%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
LiveBench browserNot measured48.0%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
LiveBench long agenticNot measured37.1%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
Finance Agent (Vals AI)51.8%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Tax Agent Bench (Vals AI)31.1%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Legal Research Bench (Vals AI)44.7%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Excel Modeling Benchmark (Vals AI)63.4%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
BioMysteryBench (Vals AI)67.0%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Terminal-Bench-Science (Vals AI)5.7%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Vals Science Index31.8%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 31 boards here
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
Reasoning benchmarks for Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkEmber-1Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench reasoningNot measured87.4%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
MysteryMechanism (Vals AI)22.5%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 20 boards here
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Web design benchmarks for Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkEmber-1Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench designNot measured72.8%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
Neither model has a result on the other 8 boards here
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
General benchmarks for Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
BenchmarkEmber-1Qwen3.8 FlashLeader
LiveBench data analysisNot measured74.2%Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured
Public Benefits Bench (Vals AI)66.2%Not measuredOnly Ember-1 measured
Neither model has a result on the other 44 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Ember-1$0.011Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0004Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Ember-1$0.195Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.0089Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Ember-1$0.750Fits in one request
Qwen3.8 Flash$0.035Fits in one request

Qwen3.8 Flash costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash
SpecificationFireworks Ember-1Qwen3.8 Flash
MakerFireworksQwen
WeightsNo public weights listedOpen weights
ReleasedSeptember 24, 2026August 26, 2026
Context window1.05M1M
Input $/Mtok$3.00$0.15
Output $/Mtok$15.00$0.47
Coding index52.6Not benchmarked
Independent measurements behind it21
Cost per solved taskNot computableNot computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Ember-1 better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?

Only Ember-1 has a coding score, 52.6 on the Vibe Coding Index; Qwen3.8 Flash has none, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3.8 Flash for output tokens 31.9x cheaper ($0.47 vs $15.00 per million).

Which is cheaper, Ember-1 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Ember-1 costs $3.00 per million input tokens and $15.00 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.

Which has the bigger context window, Ember-1 or Qwen3.8 Flash?

Ember-1, with 1.05M tokens against 1M.

Has any benchmark tested both Ember-1 and Qwen3.8 Flash?

No benchmark has tested both yet. Ember-1 has results on Terminal-Bench 4 (Vals AI), Vibe Code Bench (Vals AI) and Code migration (Vals AI); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 21, 2026.

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