Llama 3.1 8B Instruct vs Hermes 4 405B
Hermes 4 405B leads Llama 3.1 8B Instruct on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, 7.5 to 6.9, and Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs 37.5x less per output token ($0.08 vs $3.00 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 1 benchmarks have a result for both.
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct or Hermes 4 405B: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Llama 3.1 8B Instruct for output tokens 37.5x cheaper ($0.08 vs $3.00 per million) and work measured by AA Intelligence Index, where it leads.
- Shared results
- 1
- Llama 3.1 8B Instruct only
- 50
- Hermes 4 405B only
- 1
- Like-for-like categories
- 1 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
Hermes 4 405B
Hermes 4 405B leads, 7.5 against 6.9.
Same board, both measured
Long documents
Listed context window
No call
Both take 131K tokens.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct $0.0001, Hermes 4 405B $0.0025 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Llama 3.1 8B Instruct not benchmarked, Hermes 4 405B not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- Intelligence, 0.6 points apart on average over 1 shared benchmark.
- Widest single gap
- AA Intelligence Index: Llama 3.1 8B Instruct 6.9 against Hermes 4 405B 7.5, 0.6 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- Llama 3.1 8B Instruct $0.08 against Hermes 4 405B $3.00 per million output tokens, 37.5x apart.
- Context window
- Both take 131K tokens.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Bars | Hermes 4 405B | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | 0 | 1 | ||
| All shared boards | 0 | 1 |
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index6 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Coding Index | 5.4 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run) | 11.6% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) | 0.8% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| WeirdML | 1.7% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1195 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1195 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 37 boards here | |||
IntelligenceLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index01
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 6.9 | 7.5 | Hermes 4 405B |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 116.5 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index3 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| τ²-Bench Telecom | 16.4% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| BALROG | 15.1% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard (BFCL) | 25.8% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 39 boards here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | 25.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 5.3% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 27.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1175 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1144 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1196 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | Not measured | 55.8% | Only Hermes 4 405B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 16 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Math Index | 4.3 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| AIME 2025 (Artificial Analysis run) | 4.3% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| OTIS Mock AIME | 1.7% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| MATH level 5 | 22.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| GSM8K | 82.4% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: math | 1179 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1180 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run) | 47.6% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| MMLU | 56.1% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1193 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1182 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1206 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1166 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 14 boards here | |||
Web designNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 9 boards here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index21 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| IFBench | 28.6% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 18.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| DTBench | 50.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMCA | 5.4% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| PIQA | 81.2% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text | 1187 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1159 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1154 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1218 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1148 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1151 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1144 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1061 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1053 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1178 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1169 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1158 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1172 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1181 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1162 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1145 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 8B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 27 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Hermes 4 405B | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | Meta Llama 3.1 8B Instruct | Nous Hermes 4 405B |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | Meta Llama | Nous Research |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | July 23, 2024 | August 26, 2025 |
| Context window | 131K | 131K |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.05 | $1.00 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.08 | $3.00 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 0 | 0 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Llama 3.1 8B Instruct better than Hermes 4 405B for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Llama 3.1 8B Instruct for output tokens 37.5x cheaper ($0.08 vs $3.00 per million) and work measured by AA Intelligence Index, where it leads.
Which is cheaper, Llama 3.1 8B Instruct or Hermes 4 405B?
Llama 3.1 8B Instruct costs $0.05 per million input tokens and $0.08 per million output tokens; Hermes 4 405B costs $1.00 and $3.00. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Llama 3.1 8B Instruct or Hermes 4 405B?
Neither: both take 131K tokens.
How many benchmarks is the Llama 3.1 8B Instruct vs Hermes 4 405B comparison based on?
1 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. Llama 3.1 8B Instruct's coding index rests on 0 independent benchmarks and Hermes 4 405B's on 0. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.