Llama 3.1 70B Instruct vs Qwen3.8 Flash
Llama 3.1 70B Instruct and Qwen3.8 Flash cost about the same per output token ($0.56 vs $0.47 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- 24.3
- Output $/M
- $0.56
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.47
Llama 3.1 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Compare them on price, context and the boards below.
No benchmark has tested both yet. Llama 3.1 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) and WeirdML; Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct has a AA Intelligence Index result, 6.6.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Qwen3.8 Flash
Qwen3.8 Flash takes 1M tokens against 131K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash
Llama 3.1 70B Instruct $0.0008, Qwen3.8 Flash $0.0004 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Llama 3.1 70B Instruct not benchmarked, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
- Widest single gap
- None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
- Output price
- Llama 3.1 70B Instruct $0.56 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 1.2x apart.
- Context window
- Llama 3.1 70B Instruct takes 131K tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index6 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench coding | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run) | 23.2% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) | 3.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| WeirdML | 9.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1260 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1260 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 33 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 6.6 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 125.9 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench research | Not measured | 74.6% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench browser | Not measured | 48.0% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | Not measured | 37.1% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| τ²-Bench Telecom | 15.2% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| BALROG | 27.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| TheAgentCompany | 6.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 35 boards here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench reasoning | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | 40.9% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 4.5% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Epoch AI run) | 44.2% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1241 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1209 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1261 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 15 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Math Index | 4.0 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| AIME 2025 (Artificial Analysis run) | 4.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| OTIS Mock AIME | 3.6% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| MATH level 5 | 36.7% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: math | 1252 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1253 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 7 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run) | 67.6% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| MMLU | 80.1% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1276 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1257 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1283 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1235 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 12 boards here | |||
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench design | Not measured | 72.8% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 8 boards here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index20 boards measured
| Benchmark | Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench data analysis | Not measured | 74.2% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| IFBench | 34.4% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| DTBench | 60.0% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMCA | 14.8% | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text | 1261 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1231 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1232 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1294 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1219 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1215 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1222 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1132 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1140 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1262 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1253 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1234 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1256 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1241 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1236 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1230 | Not measured | Only Llama 3.1 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 26 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | Meta Llama 3.1 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Flash |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | Meta Llama | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | July 23, 2024 | August 26, 2026 |
| Context window | 131K | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.56 | $0.15 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.56 | $0.47 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 0 | 1 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Llama 3.1 70B Instruct better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Compare them on price, context and the boards below.
Which is cheaper, Llama 3.1 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Flash?
Llama 3.1 70B Instruct costs $0.56 per million input tokens and $0.56 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Llama 3.1 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Flash?
Qwen3.8 Flash, with 1M tokens against 131K.
Has any benchmark tested both Llama 3.1 70B Instruct and Qwen3.8 Flash?
No benchmark has tested both yet. Llama 3.1 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) and WeirdML; Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 22, 2026.