DeepSeek V3.2 Exp vs Qwen3.8 Flash
DeepSeek V3.2 Exp and Qwen3.8 Flash cost about the same per output token ($0.41 vs $0.47 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.41
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.47
DeepSeek V3.2 Exp or Qwen3.8 Flash: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick DeepSeek V3.2 Exp for output tokens 1.1x cheaper ($0.41 vs $0.47 per million).
No benchmark has tested both yet. DeepSeek V3.2 Exp has results on Aider polyglot, LMArena WebDev and LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp has a AA Intelligence Index result, 16.6.
Directional only
Web design
Design Arena: websites
No call
Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp has a Design Arena: websites result, 1178.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Qwen3.8 Flash
Qwen3.8 Flash takes 1M tokens against 164K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash
DeepSeek V3.2 Exp $0.0005, Qwen3.8 Flash $0.0004 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- DeepSeek V3.2 Exp not benchmarked, Qwen3.8 Flash not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
- Widest single gap
- None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
- Output price
- DeepSeek V3.2 Exp $0.41 against Qwen3.8 Flash $0.47 per million output tokens, 1.1x apart.
- Context window
- DeepSeek V3.2 Exp takes 164K tokens, Qwen3.8 Flash 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index9 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Aider polyglot | 74.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LiveBench coding | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LMArena WebDev | 1272 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run) | 78.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Terminal-Bench Hard (Artificial Analysis run) | 31.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| WeirdML | 39.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1438 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1438 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena WebDev: HTML | 1281 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 30 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 16.6 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Epoch Capabilities Index | 144.9 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index6 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench research | Not measured | 74.6% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench browser | Not measured | 48.0% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| LiveBench long agentic | Not measured | 37.1% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| τ²-Bench Telecom | 33.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| TheAgentCompany | 42.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard (BFCL) | 56.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 35 boards here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index7 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench reasoning | Not measured | 87.4% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | 79.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 14.9% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1429 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1422 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1444 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 52.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 15 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index4 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Math Index | 87.7 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| AIME 2025 (Artificial Analysis run) | 87.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: math | 1422 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1433 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 9 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index5 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run) | 85.0% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: science | 1443 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1468 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1419 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1412 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 13 boards here | |||
Web designDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index8 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Design Arena: websites | 1178 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: UI components | 1164 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: game dev | 1144 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: data viz | 1152 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: 3D | 1148 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: all code categories | 1170 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Design Arena: SVG | 1031 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LiveBench design | Not measured | 72.8% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index25 boards measured
| Benchmark | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveBench data analysis | Not measured | 74.2% | Only Qwen3.8 Flash measured |
| IFBench | 54.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Long context reasoning (AA-LCR) | 72.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| DTBench | 87.7% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMCA | 29.1% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Fiction.LiveBench | 83.3% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| CL-bench | 13.2% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| CL-bench Life | 9.5% | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text | 1425 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1401 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1404 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1441 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1404 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1461 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1440 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1331 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1372 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1434 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1441 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1412 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: Polish | 1435 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1422 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1418 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1407 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1407 | Not measured | Only DeepSeek V3.2 Exp measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3.8 Flash costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | DeepSeek V3.2 Exp | Qwen3.8 Flash |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | DeepSeek | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | September 29, 2025 | August 26, 2026 |
| Context window | 164K | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.27 | $0.15 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.41 | $0.47 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 1 | 1 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is DeepSeek V3.2 Exp better than Qwen3.8 Flash for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick DeepSeek V3.2 Exp for output tokens 1.1x cheaper ($0.41 vs $0.47 per million).
Which is cheaper, DeepSeek V3.2 Exp or Qwen3.8 Flash?
DeepSeek V3.2 Exp costs $0.27 per million input tokens and $0.41 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Flash costs $0.15 and $0.47. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, DeepSeek V3.2 Exp or Qwen3.8 Flash?
Qwen3.8 Flash, with 1M tokens against 164K.
Has any benchmark tested both DeepSeek V3.2 Exp and Qwen3.8 Flash?
No benchmark has tested both yet. DeepSeek V3.2 Exp has results on Aider polyglot, LMArena WebDev and LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run); Qwen3.8 Flash on LiveBench coding, LiveBench research and LiveBench browser. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 22, 2026.