Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking vs Cydonia 24B V4.1
Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs 2.4x less per output token than Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking ($0.50 vs $1.20 per million). Updated October 23, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $1.20
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.50
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking or Cydonia 24B V4.1: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking for a larger context window (262K against 131K tokens).
No benchmark has tested both yet. Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking has results on AA Coding Index, LMArena Text: coding and LMArena Text: software and IT; Cydonia 24B V4.1 has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking has a AA Intelligence Index result, 11.2.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking takes 262K tokens against 131K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Cydonia 24B V4.1
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking $0.0008, Cydonia 24B V4.1 $0.0006 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking not benchmarked, Cydonia 24B V4.1 not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
- Widest single gap
- None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
- Output price
- Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking $1.20 against Cydonia 24B V4.1 $0.50 per million output tokens, 2.4x apart.
- Context window
- Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking takes 262K tokens, Cydonia 24B V4.1 131K.
Benchmark by benchmark
Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index3 boards measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Coding Index | 17.4 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: coding | 1391 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: software and IT | 1393 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 40 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 11.2 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index3 boards measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text: hard prompts | 1371 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: expert | 1376 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: hard prompts in English | 1384 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 20 boards here | |||
MathDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text: math | 1398 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: mathematical work | 1390 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 12 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index4 boards measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text: science | 1385 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: medicine and healthcare | 1392 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: legal and government | 1364 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: business and finance | 1360 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 16 boards here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index17 boards measured
| Benchmark | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | Cydonia 24B V4.1 | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena Text | 1368 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: instruction following | 1343 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: creative writing | 1314 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: English | 1392 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: non-English | 1342 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Chinese | 1407 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: German | 1356 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Japanese | 1280 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Korean | 1309 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: French | 1353 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Spanish | 1358 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Russian | 1337 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: Polish | 1344 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: multi-turn | 1346 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: longer queries | 1353 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: writing and language | 1330 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| LMArena Text: entertainment and media | 1313 | Not measured | Only Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 31 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking | TheDrummer Cydonia 24B V4.1 |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | Qwen | TheDrummer |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | September 11, 2025 | September 27, 2025 |
| Context window | 262K | 131K |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.15 | $0.30 |
| Output $/Mtok | $1.20 | $0.50 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 0 | 0 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking better than Cydonia 24B V4.1 for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking for a larger context window (262K against 131K tokens).
Which is cheaper, Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking or Cydonia 24B V4.1?
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking costs $0.15 per million input tokens and $1.20 per million output tokens; Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs $0.30 and $0.50. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking or Cydonia 24B V4.1?
Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking, with 262K tokens against 131K.
Has any benchmark tested both Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking and Cydonia 24B V4.1?
No benchmark has tested both yet. Qwen3 Next 80B A3B Thinking has results on AA Coding Index, LMArena Text: coding and LMArena Text: software and IT; Cydonia 24B V4.1 has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 23, 2026.