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Hermes 4 405B vs Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct

Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs 3.0x less per output token than Hermes 4 405B ($1.00 vs $3.00 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 1 benchmarks have a result for both.

N Hermes 4 405BNous Research
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$3.00
1
Qwen2.5 VL 72B InstructQwen
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$1.00
0
vs boards won of 1 shared

Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct: which to pick

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.

Pick Hermes 4 405B for a larger context window (131K against 128K tokens).

Shared results
1
Hermes 4 405B only
1
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct only
5
Like-for-like categories
1 of 9

Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Hermes 4 405B not benchmarked, Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct not benchmarked.
Widest category
Reasoning, 19.8 points apart on average over 1 shared benchmark.
Widest single gap
Kagi LLM Benchmark: Hermes 4 405B 55.8% against Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct 36.0%, 19.8 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
Output price
Hermes 4 405B $3.00 against Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct $1.00 per million output tokens, 3.0x apart.
Context window
Hermes 4 405B takes 131K tokens, Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct 128K.

Benchmark by benchmark

First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.

Boards won, where both have a result
CategoryHermes 4 405BBarsQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructTies
Reasoning10
All shared boards10
CodingNot comparableSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index0 boards, none shared
Coding benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
Neither model has a result on 43 boards here
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
Intelligence benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
AA Intelligence Index7.5Not measuredOnly Hermes 4 405B measured
Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
Agentic work benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
OSWorldNot measured5.0%Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 41 boards here
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
Reasoning benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
Kagi LLM Benchmark55.8%36.0%Hermes 4 405B
Neither model has a result on the other 22 boards here
MathNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
Math benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
Neither model has a result on 14 boards here
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
Knowledge benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
GeoBenchNot measured62.0%Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here
Web designNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
Web design benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
Neither model has a result on 9 boards here
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index3 boards, none shared
General benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
LMArena VisionNot measured1107Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured
LMArena Vision: EnglishNot measured1115Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured
LMArena Vision: ChineseNot measured1107Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 45 boards here
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
Image generation benchmarks for Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
BenchmarkHermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B InstructLeader
Neither model has a result on 5 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Hermes 4 405B$0.0025Fits in one request
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct$0.0013Fits in one request

Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Hermes 4 405B$0.059Fits in one request
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct$0.043Fits in one request

Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Hermes 4 405B$0.230Exceeds the context window
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct$0.170Exceeds the context window

Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Hermes 4 405B and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
SpecificationNous Hermes 4 405BQwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
MakerNous ResearchQwen
WeightsOpen weightsOpen weights
ReleasedAugust 26, 2025February 1, 2025
Context window131K128K
Input $/Mtok$1.00$0.80
Output $/Mtok$3.00$1.00
Coding indexNot benchmarkedNot benchmarked
Independent measurements behind it00
Cost per solved taskNot computableNot computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Hermes 4 405B better than Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct for coding?

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Hermes 4 405B for a larger context window (131K against 128K tokens).

Which is cheaper, Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct?

Hermes 4 405B costs $1.00 per million input tokens and $3.00 per million output tokens; Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs $0.80 and $1.00. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.

Which has the bigger context window, Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct?

Hermes 4 405B, with 131K tokens against 128K.

How many benchmarks is the Hermes 4 405B vs Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct comparison based on?

1 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. Hermes 4 405B's coding index rests on 0 independent benchmarks and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct's on 0. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.

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