Hermes 4 405B vs Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs 3.0x less per output token than Hermes 4 405B ($1.00 vs $3.00 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; 1 benchmarks have a result for both.
Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Hermes 4 405B for a larger context window (131K against 128K tokens).
- Shared results
- 1
- Hermes 4 405B only
- 1
- Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct only
- 5
- Like-for-like categories
- 1 of 9
Only benchmarks that tested both models count toward a pick; a result only one model has is shown but not compared.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only Hermes 4 405B has a AA Intelligence Index result, 7.5.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Hermes 4 405B
Hermes 4 405B takes 131K tokens against 128K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct
Hermes 4 405B $0.0025, Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct $0.0013 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Hermes 4 405B not benchmarked, Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- Reasoning, 19.8 points apart on average over 1 shared benchmark.
- Widest single gap
- Kagi LLM Benchmark: Hermes 4 405B 55.8% against Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct 36.0%, 19.8 points apart on a 0 to 100 scale.
- Output price
- Hermes 4 405B $3.00 against Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct $1.00 per million output tokens, 3.0x apart.
- Context window
- Hermes 4 405B takes 131K tokens, Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct 128K.
Benchmark by benchmark
First the score: boards each model leads, per category, where both have a result. Then every board, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale, so compare the two in a row, not one row with another.
| Category | Hermes 4 405B | Bars | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reasoning | 1 | 0 | ||
| All shared boards | 1 | 0 |
CodingNot comparableSix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 43 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 7.5 | Not measured | Only Hermes 4 405B measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
Agentic workDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| OSWorld | Not measured | 5.0% | Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 41 boards here | |||
ReasoningLike-for-likePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index10
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Kagi LLM Benchmark | 55.8% | 36.0% | Hermes 4 405B |
| Neither model has a result on the other 22 boards here | |||
MathNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 14 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| GeoBench | Not measured | 62.0% | Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here | |||
Web designNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 9 boards here | |||
GeneralDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index3 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LMArena Vision | Not measured | 1107 | Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Vision: English | Not measured | 1115 | Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured |
| LMArena Vision: Chinese | Not measured | 1107 | Only Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 45 boards here | |||
Image generationNot comparablePublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index0 boards, none shared
| Benchmark | Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| Neither model has a result on 5 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | Nous Hermes 4 405B | Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | Nous Research | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | Open weights |
| Released | August 26, 2025 | February 1, 2025 |
| Context window | 131K | 128K |
| Input $/Mtok | $1.00 | $0.80 |
| Output $/Mtok | $3.00 | $1.00 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 0 | 0 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Hermes 4 405B better than Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Hermes 4 405B for a larger context window (131K against 128K tokens).
Which is cheaper, Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct?
Hermes 4 405B costs $1.00 per million input tokens and $3.00 per million output tokens; Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct costs $0.80 and $1.00. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Hermes 4 405B or Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct?
Hermes 4 405B, with 131K tokens against 128K.
How many benchmarks is the Hermes 4 405B vs Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct comparison based on?
1 benchmarks have a result for both models as of October 22, 2026. Hermes 4 405B's coding index rests on 0 independent benchmarks and Qwen2.5 VL 72B Instruct's on 0. Where only one model has a result, the page says so instead of naming a winner.