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Hermes 3 70B Instruct vs Cydonia 24B V4.1

Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs 1.4x less per output token than Hermes 3 70B Instruct ($0.50 vs $0.70 per million). Updated October 23, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.

N Hermes 3 70B InstructNous Research
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.70
T Cydonia 24B V4.1TheDrummer
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.50
vs $0.70 vs $0.50 per 1M output tokens. Cydonia 24B V4.1 is 1.4x cheaper.

Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Cydonia 24B V4.1: which to pick

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.

Compare them on price, context and the boards below.

No benchmark has tested both yet. Hermes 3 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run); Cydonia 24B V4.1 has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Hermes 3 70B Instruct not benchmarked, Cydonia 24B V4.1 not benchmarked.
Widest category
None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
Widest single gap
None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
Output price
Hermes 3 70B Instruct $0.70 against Cydonia 24B V4.1 $0.50 per million output tokens, 1.4x apart.
Context window
Both take 131K tokens.

Benchmark by benchmark

Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.

CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index1 board measured
Coding benchmarks for Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1
BenchmarkHermes 3 70B InstructCydonia 24B V4.1Leader
LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run)18.8%Not measuredOnly Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 42 boards here
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Intelligence benchmarks for Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1
BenchmarkHermes 3 70B InstructCydonia 24B V4.1Leader
AA Intelligence Index6.7Not measuredOnly Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
Reasoning benchmarks for Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1
BenchmarkHermes 3 70B InstructCydonia 24B V4.1Leader
GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run)40.1%Not measuredOnly Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run)4.0%Not measuredOnly Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Knowledge benchmarks for Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1
BenchmarkHermes 3 70B InstructCydonia 24B V4.1Leader
MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run)57.1%Not measuredOnly Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.0010Fits in one request
Cydonia 24B V4.1$0.0006Fits in one request

Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.037Fits in one request
Cydonia 24B V4.1$0.017Fits in one request

Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.147Exceeds the context window
Cydonia 24B V4.1$0.065Exceeds the context window

Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1
SpecificationNous Hermes 3 70B InstructTheDrummer Cydonia 24B V4.1
MakerNous ResearchTheDrummer
WeightsOpen weightsOpen weights
ReleasedAugust 18, 2024September 27, 2025
Context window131K131K
Input $/Mtok$0.70$0.30
Output $/Mtok$0.70$0.50
Coding indexNot benchmarkedNot benchmarked
Independent measurements behind it00
Cost per solved taskNot computableNot computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Hermes 3 70B Instruct better than Cydonia 24B V4.1 for coding?

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Compare them on price, context and the boards below.

Which is cheaper, Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Cydonia 24B V4.1?

Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs $0.70 per million input tokens and $0.70 per million output tokens; Cydonia 24B V4.1 costs $0.30 and $0.50. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.

Which has the bigger context window, Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Cydonia 24B V4.1?

Neither: both take 131K tokens.

Has any benchmark tested both Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Cydonia 24B V4.1?

No benchmark has tested both yet. Hermes 3 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run); Cydonia 24B V4.1 has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 23, 2026.

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