Hermes 3 70B Instruct vs Qwen3.8 Max Prime
Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs 17.1x less per output token than Qwen3.8 Max Prime ($0.70 vs $12.00 per million). Updated October 23, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $0.70
- Coding
- No data
- Overall
- No data
- Output $/M
- $12.00
Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Max Prime: which to pick
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.
Pick Hermes 3 70B Instruct for output tokens 17.1x cheaper ($0.70 vs $12.00 per million).
No benchmark has tested both yet. Hermes 3 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run); Qwen3.8 Max Prime has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead.
Which one for your work
Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.
Coding
Vibe Coding Index, six public coding benchmarks
No call
Neither has a coding score yet.
One side not measured
Intelligence
AA Intelligence Index
No call
Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct has a AA Intelligence Index result, 6.7.
Directional only
Long documents
Listed context window
Qwen3.8 Max Prime
Qwen3.8 Max Prime takes 1M tokens against 131K.
Listed by OpenRouter
Everyday cost
1K input + 500 output tokens
Hermes 3 70B Instruct
Hermes 3 70B Instruct $0.0010, Qwen3.8 Max Prime $0.010 per turn.
List prices
At a glance
- Coding index
- Hermes 3 70B Instruct not benchmarked, Qwen3.8 Max Prime not benchmarked.
- Widest category
- None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
- Widest single gap
- None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
- Output price
- Hermes 3 70B Instruct $0.70 against Qwen3.8 Max Prime $12.00 per million output tokens, 17.1x apart.
- Context window
- Hermes 3 70B Instruct takes 131K tokens, Qwen3.8 Max Prime 1M.
Benchmark by benchmark
Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.
CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index1 board measured
| Benchmark | Hermes 3 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max Prime | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run) | 18.8% | Not measured | Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 42 boards here | |||
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
| Benchmark | Hermes 3 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max Prime | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| AA Intelligence Index | 6.7 | Not measured | Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here | |||
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
| Benchmark | Hermes 3 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max Prime | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run) | 40.1% | Not measured | Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured |
| Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run) | 4.0% | Not measured | Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here | |||
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
| Benchmark | Hermes 3 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max Prime | Leader |
|---|---|---|---|
| MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run) | 57.1% | Not measured | Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured |
| Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here | |||
What each workload costs
Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.
Chat turn
1K input + 500 output tokens
Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs less
Repository review
50K input + 3K output tokens
Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs less
Agent loop
200K input + 10K output tokens
Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs less
Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.
Specification differences
The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.
| Specification | Nous Hermes 3 70B Instruct | Qwen3.8 Max Prime |
|---|---|---|
| Maker | Nous Research | Qwen |
| Weights | Open weights | No public weights listed |
| Released | August 18, 2024 | September 23, 2026 |
| Context window | 131K | 1M |
| Input $/Mtok | $0.70 | $4.00 |
| Output $/Mtok | $0.70 | $12.00 |
| Coding index | Not benchmarked | Not benchmarked |
| Independent measurements behind it | 0 | 0 |
| Cost per solved task | Not computable | Not computable |
| Source | OpenRouter listing | OpenRouter listing |
Questions
Is Hermes 3 70B Instruct better than Qwen3.8 Max Prime for coding?
Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Pick Hermes 3 70B Instruct for output tokens 17.1x cheaper ($0.70 vs $12.00 per million).
Which is cheaper, Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Max Prime?
Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs $0.70 per million input tokens and $0.70 per million output tokens; Qwen3.8 Max Prime costs $4.00 and $12.00. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.
Which has the bigger context window, Hermes 3 70B Instruct or Qwen3.8 Max Prime?
Qwen3.8 Max Prime, with 1M tokens against 131K.
Has any benchmark tested both Hermes 3 70B Instruct and Qwen3.8 Max Prime?
No benchmark has tested both yet. Hermes 3 70B Instruct has results on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run); Qwen3.8 Max Prime has none yet. Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 23, 2026.