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Weaver (alpha) vs Hermes 3 70B Instruct

Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct cost about the same per output token ($0.75 vs $0.70 per million). Updated October 22, 2026; no benchmark has tested both models yet.

M Weaver (alpha)Mancer
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.75
N Hermes 3 70B InstructNous Research
Coding
No data
Overall
No data
Output $/M
$0.70
vs $0.75 vs $0.70 per 1M output tokens. Hermes 3 70B Instruct is 1.1x cheaper.

Weaver (alpha) or Hermes 3 70B Instruct: which to pick

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding.

Compare them on price, context and the boards below.

No benchmark has tested both yet. Weaver (alpha) has none yet; Hermes 3 70B Instruct on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run). Compare them on price and context instead.

Which one for your work

Each card is decided by one number both models carry. Where only one has it, the card says so and makes no call.

At a glance

Coding index
Weaver (alpha) not benchmarked, Hermes 3 70B Instruct not benchmarked.
Widest category
None yet: no category has been tested on both models.
Widest single gap
None yet: no benchmark has tested both models.
Output price
Weaver (alpha) $0.75 against Hermes 3 70B Instruct $0.70 per million output tokens, 1.1x apart.
Context window
Weaver (alpha) takes 8K tokens, Hermes 3 70B Instruct 131K.

Benchmark by benchmark

Every board either model has a result on, a category to a fold; bars are each result on a 0 to 100 scale. Only one model is measured on each, so no row names a leader.

CodingDirectional onlySix of these boards feed the Vibe Coding Index1 board measured
Coding benchmarks for Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct
BenchmarkWeaver (alpha)Hermes 3 70B InstructLeader
LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run)Not measured18.8%Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 42 boards here
IntelligenceDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Intelligence benchmarks for Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct
BenchmarkWeaver (alpha)Hermes 3 70B InstructLeader
AA Intelligence IndexNot measured6.7Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 1 board here
ReasoningDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index2 boards measured
Reasoning benchmarks for Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct
BenchmarkWeaver (alpha)Hermes 3 70B InstructLeader
GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run)Not measured40.1%Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Humanity's Last Exam (Artificial Analysis run)Not measured4.0%Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 21 boards here
KnowledgeDirectional onlyPublic boards, shown as published, kept out of the index1 board measured
Knowledge benchmarks for Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct
BenchmarkWeaver (alpha)Hermes 3 70B InstructLeader
MMLU Pro (Artificial Analysis run)Not measured57.1%Only Hermes 3 70B Instruct measured
Neither model has a result on the other 19 boards here

What each workload costs

Three fixed token mixes at each model's listed price, so per-token rates become a bill.

Chat turn

1K input + 500 output tokens

Weaver (alpha)$0.0008Fits in one request
Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.0010Fits in one request

Weaver (alpha) costs less

Repository review

50K input + 3K output tokens

Weaver (alpha)$0.022Exceeds the context window
Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.037Fits in one request

Weaver (alpha) costs less

Agent loop

200K input + 10K output tokens

Weaver (alpha)$0.087Exceeds the context window
Hermes 3 70B Instruct$0.147Exceeds the context window

Weaver (alpha) costs less

Listed OpenRouter rates, without cache or batch discounts. A workload that does not fit a model's context window would need splitting.

Specification differences

The leading value in a row is marked; a row with a missing value names no leader. Our two rows are marked in red.

Specifications of Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct
SpecificationMancer Weaver (alpha)Nous Hermes 3 70B Instruct
MakerMancerNous Research
WeightsNo public weights listedOpen weights
ReleasedAugust 2, 2023August 18, 2024
Context window8K131K
Input $/Mtok$0.40$0.70
Output $/Mtok$0.75$0.70
Coding indexNot benchmarkedNot benchmarked
Independent measurements behind it00
Cost per solved taskNot computableNot computable
SourceOpenRouter listingOpenRouter listing

Questions

Is Weaver (alpha) better than Hermes 3 70B Instruct for coding?

Neither model has a coding score yet, so the two cannot be ranked on coding. Compare them on price, context and the boards below.

Which is cheaper, Weaver (alpha) or Hermes 3 70B Instruct?

Weaver (alpha) costs $0.40 per million input tokens and $0.75 per million output tokens; Hermes 3 70B Instruct costs $0.70 and $0.70. Cost per solved task is known for neither of them.

Which has the bigger context window, Weaver (alpha) or Hermes 3 70B Instruct?

Hermes 3 70B Instruct, with 131K tokens against 8K.

Has any benchmark tested both Weaver (alpha) and Hermes 3 70B Instruct?

No benchmark has tested both yet. Weaver (alpha) has none yet; Hermes 3 70B Instruct on LiveCodeBench (Artificial Analysis run), AA Intelligence Index and GPQA Diamond (Artificial Analysis run). Compare them on price and context instead. Data as of October 22, 2026.

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